Inspiring Great Leaders Podcast #210 Peter Baines OAM Leadership Matters

Inspiring Great Leaders Podcast #210 Peter Baines OAM Leadership Matters

Leadership Matters

On this episode of the Inspiring Great Leaders Podcast, Craig Johns speaks with Peter Baines OAM about how leadership matters, critical decision making in high stakes environments like the Thailand Tsunami and the psychology of managing extremely difficult situations as a leader.

We also dive deeper into how we could cope from the mental effects of difficult and traumatic situations, leadership in the current world and why decision making skills are important during these times. 

Peter Baines OAM  –  Leadership Matters

Peter Baines OAM is the founder of Hands Across the Water, a global keynote speaker, board director and author of the book Leadership Matters. With a background that weaves through the corridors of Canberra Institute of Technology, where he studied forensic science, to the prestigious halls of the University of Sydney, where he delved into law, his insights into leadership are a fascinating fusion of disciplines.

From unraveling criminal mysteries to advising the likes of Interpol and the United Nations, his two-decade career as a forensic investigator has taken him to the epicenters of crisis in Indonesia, Japan, Thailand, and Saudi Arabia. But it was the call of compassion that shifted his trajectory. In the aftermath of Thailand’s hardships, he founded Hands Across the Water, a beacon of hope for children without homes or families.

Karen talks about:

  • How leadership matters in handling difficult situations
  • Characteristic leaders must have in the current world
  • His experiences growing up as a public servant
  • How he was able to prevent the adverse effects of working in the crime industry from affecting his own mental health and well-being
  • His experience working in the disaster unit during the Thailand tsunami. 
  • The differences between handling disasters in Japan vs Thailand
  • The challenges of informing family members regarding sad and difficult circumstances
  • How to handle pressure in difficult situations
  • Developing critical decision-making skills
  • Transitioning from handling big situations to smaller ones
  • The fulfillment of speaking on stage 
  • Things that leaders should talk about when writing their books


“I couldn’t change what had happened, but I could feel like it was within my capacity to do something around what happened next.” Peter Baines OAM talks about helping kids recover from the tsunami in Thailand on the Inspiring Great Leaders Podcast.

“True leaders are identified by what they do and the decisions that they make.” Peter Baines OAM talks about the characteristics of a leader on the Inspiring Great Leaders Podcast.

“That’s the beauty of it and how interesting it is to know more about yourself, what you’re capable of, what you’re what you’re thinking, where you’re thinking comes from, how you shape ideas and thoughts, or how you’re limited in your understanding and knowledge on particular issues.” Learning about oneself by Peter Baines OAM on the Inspiring Great Leaders Podcast.

Resources Mentioned in this show:

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Peter Baines OAM Facebook
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Leadership Matters (Stories And Insights For Leaders, Achievers And Visionaries)

active CEO Podcast Major General Cheryl Pearce (United Nations) Leading From The Front Lines

active CEO Podcast #50 Major General Cheryl Pearce Leading From The Front Lines

Major General Cheryl Pearce – Forces Commander United Nations Peacekeeping Force

On this episode of the active CEO Podcast, Craig Johns speaks with Major General Cheryl Pearce about leading from the front lines, being an authentic leader, serving your country, managing workplace wellness, empowering a sense of purpose, and creating high performance teams. We also delve into her leadership roles at the Australian Defence Force and with the United Nations; creating a safe and inclusive environment to work in; completing the New York Marathon; and getting out of her comfort zone.

Major General Cheryl Pearce

Cheryl Pearce is an authentic leader, dedicated servant for global peace, change agent in cultural and gender diversity, and game-changer in the world of Defence. She is a next generational leader who is New York Marathon finisher, proud mum of two daughters, and Member of Order of Australia for Exceptional Leadership.

Her education includes a Bachelor of Arts in Asian Studies from the University of New England, a Master’s in Policing, Intelligence and Counter-Terrorism from the Macquarie University in Sydney, and a Master’s of Arts in Defence Studies from the Deakin University in Melbourne.

Over the past 35 years she has risen through the ranks of the Australian Defence Force, starting off as an Officer Cadet when there were only a few females. Cheryl’s career has included: Australian Army’s Provost-Marshal and a military observer with the United Nations Mission of Support in East Timor in 2002; Commandant of the Defence Police Training Centre and Commanding Officer of the 1st Military Police Battalion; Director of Special Operations Support; Australian Army Headquarters Chief of Staff; and the Commander Commandant Australian Defence Force Academy.

In 2016, Cheryl was the Commander of the Australian Joint Task Force Group in Afghanistan providing training, advice and assistance to the Afghan National Defence and Security Forces as part of the Resolute Support Mission of The North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO). Her most recent role sees her as only the second ever female appointed by the United Nations to lead a peacekeeping mission, as the Forces Commander – United Nations Peacekeeping Force based in Cyprus.

Cheryl talks about:

  • The shock of capture when joining the Australian Army.
  • Working day-by-day and focusing on chunk size bites at a time.
  • The internal motivation of serving your country and be much more than your individual self.
  • Managing competing priorities as a leader and having a young family.
  • Having an army behind the scenes.
  • Gaining the confidence to be that authentic self and have an intuitive leadership style.
  • Being sensitive to perfectionism and judgement.
  • Leading from the front lines
  • Why exercise is my stress release and my safe space.
  • The importance of listening to what other people have to say and not transmit our own ideas.
  • The Cultural shift in inclusion and behaviour within the Australian Defence Force.
  • Her role as the Forces Commander – United Nations Peacekeeping Force based in Cyprus.
  • Speaking in front of the UN Security Council.
  • How health has taken on a broader aspect from mind and body.
  • Completing the New York Marathon after her partner, Paul, went through lifesaving cancer surgery.

Active CEO Wellness Tip

Recover With Purpose – To ensure that you deliver high performance every single day, you need to recover with purpose and have productive downtime. It could be doing exercise, creative pursuits, quality time with family, meditation, listening to music or watching a movie.


“Internal narrative that keeps churning, it is ok to be imperfect. To be perfect, the authenticity is not there. It’s ok not to be perfect.” Major General Cheryl Pearce speaks about the challenges of perfectionism, on the active CEO Podcast.

“Doing what I do, my heart rate races when I de-escalate and have difficult conversations with my opposing forces when I try to get messages a across or deal with stressful moments. I find that is sufficient adrenaline to test me all the time.” Doing something for the first time with Major General Cheryl Pearce, on the active CEO Podcast.

“I know it when I can be in the moment, I am performing really well at work, I am visionary, I can really focus on where we are going and know what my big rocks are and where they are going, while dealing with the small and actionary issues and listening.” In the moment with Major General Cheryl Pearce, on the active CEO Podcast.

Resources Mentioned in this show:

Cheryl Pearce LinkedIn
Cheryl Pearce Twitter
Australian Army
UNFICYP website
Craig Johns
Craig Johns LinkedIn